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Postby Brianp420 » 26 Feb 2013, 13:42

Dual Rate and Expo for Dummies , is there a how to video for setting up d/r and expo on the 9xr?? i searched with no luck and the manual only tells you how to get to the screens but doesnt tell us what to do once we get there

ok i think i know the basics: Dual Rate is as it sounds , two different rates of movement for any given channel .

expo or exponential is a delay to stop the model from making quick or violent movements reguardless of the pilots stick inputs.

CORRECT ME IF IM WRONG ABOVE :)

I searched for d/r and expo setup in the forum and only found one post from another guy that also needed help so im hoping to get some answers for myself and others!

For the first 2 years i owned my dx6i i never used any switches or d/r expo , then I copied some settings from another radio and i instantly became a much better pilot with way less crashes so i want to get all of the bells and whistles setup in my new 9xr.

if someone can point me to a tutorial on how to setup these settings in the 9xr that would be great! the manual only tells you how to access the screens but it gives you so many options with assignable switches +&- digits that i cant seem to make sense of it all. it also does not give us any idea of good starting points so its a little scary to start changing things without a better understanding how these things should work .

quite a few guys i fly with still fly with no d/r or expo , i guess we are old school . with 20 plus years in rc i guess i should know these things but i only started using computer transmitters in the last few years.

step by step instructions would probably do the trick but a video would be even better . pretend im new to flying and try to explain the setup in terms that even a newb could understand . the assignable switches and tripple rate are great im sure but i really need to get the basics down before i try any of the extra stuff.

i know there are other guys like me flying with no switches or expo but i know i can be a much better pilot if i get all this stuff dialed in .
videos for other radios seem to make things harder for me to understand because of the way the screens and switches are setup.

I love my 9xr and I hope to soon understand how to use all the great functions that turnigy gave us!

thanks in advance for any help and if your one of those guys who is a smart ass that likes busting balls go to another post , im sorry im not as smart as you :)

im never to proud to ask for help ! knowledge is power :)

thanks Brian
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Re: Dual Rate and Expo for Dummies HELP WANTED

Postby kaivalagi » 27 Feb 2013, 05:32

I'm new to RC aircraft and wanted to remove the twitchyness of throttle around the hover point of my quad and ended up following this guide on youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uc3TdQhNc_g

Bear in mind though that I have updated the firmware on the radio to er9x and that's what this video is for! I'd suggest doing the same rather than stick on the original version on the radio. Just need a AVR programmer and a 10->6 pin cable available on HK website for next to nothing.

The vid explains:
1) How to record your current throttle settings at any point to refer to later, so you'll know hover points etc easily
2) Setup a curve based on the throttle hover point that means no more crazy up/down nonsense

I now have expo set to +-10 on all 4 channels to remove the granularity around the center points and also a curve setup as -100, -5, 10, +25, +100 (based on a hover point of +10) to give me a nice offset and more gradual throttle change around that middle point suitable for my situation.

I highly recommend doing this but I am a noob so someone might have better suggestions...whatever works though right :)
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Re: Dual Rate and Expo for Dummies HELP WANTED

Postby Brianp420 » 27 Feb 2013, 13:32

kaivalagi wrote:I'm new to RC aircraft and wanted to remove the twitchyness of throttle around the hover point of my quad and ended up following this guide on youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uc3TdQhNc_g

Bear in mind though that I have updated the firmware on the radio to er9x and that's what this video is for! I'd suggest doing the same rather than stick on the original version on the radio. Just need a AVR programmer and a 10->6 pin cable available on HK website for next to nothing.

The vid explains:
1) How to record your current throttle settings at any point to refer to later, so you'll know hover points etc easily
2) Setup a curve based on the throttle hover point that means no more crazy up/down nonsense

I now have expo set to +-10 on all 4 channels to remove the granularity around the center points and also a curve setup as -100, -5, 10, +25, +100 (based on a hover point of +10) to give me a nice offset and more gradual throttle change around that middle point suitable for my situation.

I highly recommend doing this but I am a noob so someone might have better suggestions...whatever works though right :)



thanks for the info and link! the thread survived a whole 24 hours without being moved or closed so i guess i put it in the right place :) since last night i beeped my way through setup on 5 planes and 2 helis so i think i have it down now. i know all the info is out there but it was hard to find it all in one place , now that i worked it out i will probably make a video showing setup from naming the model right through to range check and flight. like i said quite a few guys i know still fly "raw" with no expo and or d/r and it really makes a huge difference at the field so hopefully more guys will start using all the fancy features their paying for on the computer radios!

tips tricks and advise are always welcome in my threads so feel free to add to the thread with any info that might help others! BY FAR THE BEST RADIO I HAVE EVER OWNED! DX7 AND 8 WERE OVER $300 EACH AND BOTH ARE ON THE SHELF WITH PROBLEMS! SCREEN WENT ON DX6I TOO THEN SWITCHES ON THE 7 AND BOTH GIMBALS ON THE 8 ARE SLOPPY AND THE THROTTLE STICK HAS DEAD SPOTS NOW!

I KNOW SOME CHEAP ELECTRONICS ARE CRAP BUT I REALLY THINK THEY GOT IT RIGHT WITH THIS ONE , ONCE A GET SOME REAL HOURS ON THE STICKS I WILL POST MY THOUGHTS BUT I THINK THINGS ARE GOING TO BE JUST FINE.
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Re: Dual Rate and Expo for Dummies HELP WANTED

Postby Pcandtech » 27 Feb 2013, 15:17

I´ve had lots of trouble also with the 9xr programming since no one really knows how what i end up doing is looking at the few er9x videos and forums and reading the HK PDF manual i have a rc heli so setup is more difficult and dangerous after 3 weeks i finally think i have it write , have to go fly a few batteries to make sure , the only doud i have so far is how to make trims permanent cause i trim the heli on flight and as soon as i restart the radio all of them are back on center :S
I took some pictures and video of 9xr and post them on my blog
http://www.turnigy9xr.blogspot.com
I would try and make a full setup guide as soon as i have time and make sure everything is write :D
Any question just ask :D
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Re: Dual Rate and Expo for Dummies HELP WANTED

Postby cruiser » 01 Mar 2013, 01:27

Great thread for noobs. Really, really useful. Did a search for something like this, found this and registered in this forum:-)
Subscribed:-))
Also, how do you setup Airplane acro mode?
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Re: Dual Rate and Expo for Dummies HELP WANTED

Postby Brianp420 » 17 Mar 2013, 11:17

cruiser wrote:Great thread for noobs. Really, really useful. Did a search for something like this, found this and registered in this forum:-)
Subscribed:-))
Also, how do you setup Airplane acro mode?



I HAVENT HAD A NEED TO MESS WITH ACRO BUT WHEN I DO I WILL LET YOU KNOW WHAT I LEARN! I POSTED ANOTHER LINK TO USE THE BUILT IN ANTENNA I PUT A LINK UP FOR PICS CAUSE I CANT SEEM TO GET PICS UPLOADED
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Re: Dual Rate and Expo for Dummies HELP WANTED

Postby Robr0924 » 10 May 2013, 09:28

Thanks I got my 9xr today and I am stuck on figuring out the dual rates. My last radio was a jr 8103 and the dual rates was already done. So this is what I was looking for thanks all.

Rob
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Re: Dual Rate and Expo for Dummies HELP WANTED

Postby Robr0924 » 11 May 2013, 23:38

Figured it out, thanks to the YouTube vids. I'll post how I did it, once figured out the steps are straight forward.
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Re: Dual Rate and Expo for Dummies HELP WANTED

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Re: Dual Rate and Expo for Dummies HELP WANTED

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