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Hard to go from Mode 1 -> Mode 2?

Postby Knutsel » 07 Jan 2013, 01:00

Hi all,

Is it hard to switch modes on the 9XR? I read somewhere that - hardware wise - it's hard to change throttle from the left stick to the right and vice versa, is this true and if so: why?
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Re: Hard to go from Mode 1 -> Mode 2?

Postby rob.thomson » 07 Jan 2013, 02:19

Software change is easy. Just change he setting in the firmware.

But you will need to open the tx and move the spring to the other stick.
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Re: Sv: Hard to go from Mode 1 -> Mode 2?

Postby Dvogonen » 07 Jan 2013, 02:30

I have not gotten my 9xr yet, but as I understand it, it is a bit more complicated to switch the spring than it used to be in the 9x.Someone who took his 9xr apart expressed the opinion that the easiest way to switch from 1 to 2 was to physically switch the gimbals. This requires desoldering and then soldering of a flat cable per gimbal. Not a big deal at all for those who are used to soldering, but a deal breaker for those who aren't.
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Re: Hard to go from Mode 1 -> Mode 2?

Postby crucial » 07 Jan 2013, 03:58

That was me. Take a look at the gimbal, it is not like the old ones at all. The 9x gimbals you could slide the lever off after swinging it out. This one is surrounded by plastic on both sides and the pin holding it in did not want to move when I tried pushing it out. You may be able to press that pin out but I didn't want to risk damage trying it more. I don't need to change modes, I was just looking to see how the gimbals were put together.
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Re: Hard to go from Mode 1 -> Mode 2?

Postby jonlowe » 07 Jan 2013, 22:52

Thanks for the photos of the gimbals. Am I missing something, or is there no way to adjust the spring tension on the sticks? I don't see an adjustment screw anywhere. To add ball bearings but leave out adjustment doesn't make any sense.

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Re: Hard to go from Mode 1 -> Mode 2?

Postby crucial » 08 Jan 2013, 00:12

You are correct. The only way to adjust tension is with different springs.
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Re: Sv: Hard to go from Mode 1 -> Mode 2?

Postby danallen » 10 Jan 2013, 23:40

Dvogonen wrote:... This requires desoldering and then soldering of a flat cable per gimbal...


When you say flat cable are you referring to the standard 3 cable going to the potentiometer? Or a ribbon cable?

I just changed my order to the Mode 1 because I was #400 in line. I'll take my chances with swapping the sides. I'll do my best to document my progress to help others with the same.

:D
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Re: Hard to go from Mode 1 -> Mode 2?

Postby crucial » 11 Jan 2013, 00:29

take a look at the pics. the white connectors soldered to the boards needs to be un-soldered and swapped with the other side. It may be easier to pull the whole pot assembly out and swap that. I don't remember if you can pull both of them out without disassembling the gimbal though.
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Re: Hard to go from Mode 1 -> Mode 2?

Postby danallen » 11 Jan 2013, 01:06

That shouldn't pose a problem, that sounds very easy. Easier than removing the Pot and doing the swap. I'll update you guys when I get the 9XR 2-3 weeks from now.

I managed to rewire an old Hitec remote to fit into a tiny project box. It was for a wireless remote to turn a follow focus.
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Re: Hard to go from Mode 1 -> Mode 2?

Postby Pcandtech » 11 Jan 2013, 02:44

So Anyone try it yet?
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Re: Hard to go from Mode 1 -> Mode 2?

Postby Pcandtech » 11 Jan 2013, 02:48

crucial wrote:That was me. Take a look at the gimbal, it is not like the old ones at all. The 9x gimbals you could slide the lever off after swinging it out. This one is surrounded by plastic on both sides and the pin holding it in did not want to move when I tried pushing it out. You may be able to press that pin out but I didn't want to risk damage trying it more. I don't need to change modes, I was just looking to see how the gimbals were put together.

Was it difficult to take the gimbals out? do they fit on the opposite side? thanks
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Re: Hard to go from Mode 1 -> Mode 2?

Postby crucial » 11 Jan 2013, 04:14

taking them out was fairly simple. 4 screws and they come right out. To be honest I didn't actually swap them side to side but they looked exactly the same to my eyes.
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Re: Hard to go from Mode 1 -> Mode 2?

Postby Pcandtech » 11 Jan 2013, 05:21

crucial wrote:taking them out was fairly simple. 4 screws and they come right out. To be honest I didn't actually swap them side to side but they looked exactly the same to my eyes.

I am in a dilemma XD i order mode 2 since dic 27 but is back order still and mode 1 is on stock i usually deal with electronics and mechanics easily but i am afraid to mess it up :S that pin is making my work harder :S , otherwise do you thing the cables work if changed?
thanks
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Re: Hard to go from Mode 1 -> Mode 2?

Postby crucial » 11 Jan 2013, 06:01

as long as you solder everything together the same and don't melt anything I don't see why it would be a problem.
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Re: Hard to go from Mode 1 -> Mode 2?

Postby Soccer Du25 » 11 Jan 2013, 11:31

so, would i just swap the whole mech, then plug back into the same spot? extend wires if needed..?
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Re: Hard to go from Mode 1 -> Mode 2?

Postby Pcandtech » 12 Jan 2013, 04:20

I finally decided to change my order to mode 1 and see how it goes :D i would try to help as soon as it arrives but i assume pepole will get it first , i asked hobbyking support how much mode 1 tx they had and they told me 215 LOL then i assumed chinese manufacters were working only on mode 1 and they should be making mode 2 so is about 1 week or 2 based on last arrivals
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Re: Hard to go from Mode 1 -> Mode 2?

Postby old4570 » 13 Jan 2013, 08:28

Swap the springs ! Dont swap gimbals ..
The mode 1 has been in stock a few days now [ strange ] at first it was in stock about [ restock ] half a day , now this time 2 days so far ..
Yeah HK , time to stock the mode 2 ..
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Re: Hard to go from Mode 1 -> Mode 2?

Postby kyus74 » 13 Jan 2013, 09:26

Cant swap springs need to desolder ribbon cable then swap gimbles over. Only 10min job.
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Re: Hard to go from Mode 1 -> Mode 2?

Postby Pcandtech » 13 Jan 2013, 09:42

kyus74 wrote:Cant swap springs need to desolder ribbon cable then swap gimbles over. Only 10min job.

have you done it alredy? Can you post some pictures please on the ribbon cable you need to change thanks :D
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Re: Hard to go from Mode 1 -> Mode 2?

Postby crucial » 13 Jan 2013, 23:22

Pcandtech wrote:
kyus74 wrote:Cant swap springs need to desolder ribbon cable then swap gimbles over. Only 10min job.

have you done it alredy? Can you post some pictures please on the ribbon cable you need to change thanks :D


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What a horrible design change this was.
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Re: Hard to go from Mode 1 -> Mode 2?

Postby bstott » 20 Apr 2013, 09:27

NOT HARD!!!

Still waiting for HK to stock the Turnigy 9XR 'Mode 2' Transmitter?

Dont wait! Buy the 'Mode 1' and make the 'Mode 2' change. I didn't wait and I'm glad I bought the 'Mode 1'. It is an easy first mod to get you into the radio to see the insides. My NEW 'Mode 2' Transmitter works! :D While others ----> Wait! :cry:

Alert: If I hadn't gotten into the transmitter to do the 'Mode 1' to 'Mode 2' conversion I'd not have known why the programmer wouldn't work. I found inside my brand new factory fresh transmitter a broken wire and some other poorly soldered programming wire joints.

OK - You have now bought and received your Turnigy 9XR 'Mode 1' Transmitter while everyone else is waiting for that tiny moment in time when HK has some 'Mode 2' transmitters.

It is easy to make the 'Mode 1' ----> 'Mode 2'.

This method uses soldering tools. OR you can just splice wires ---- Either works GREAT!

Start the Modification.
- Remove the battery
- Remove the transmitter back by removing 10 screws.
- Make a sketch for the pot wire locations and note the wiring color to which side they mate. The lengths are different for side and position.
- Remove the gimbals by removing 4 screws from each gimbal.
- De-solder the pot wiring pcb harnesses. OR you can plan to cut and splice the wires.
- Move the gimbals to either side of the transmitter but, do not install yet.
- Solder on the pot wire pcb harnesses into the correct side and positions on the swapped gimbals. OR if you chose to splice the wires do so now.
- Install the swapped gimbals. Be sure to have rotated them 180 degrees to put the pots into their respective and proper positions on the correct side of the transmitter.
- Re-install the gimbal screws.
- Plug your pot connectors back into the transmitter main board per your sketch and notes.
- Alert - Check all of the wires soldered to the main board near the large processor chip. I would recommend that you re-solder them all. One of mine broke off and a couple other solder joints were very dodgy looking.

Test.
- Plug in the battery.
- Checking on the LCD screen, press either the Top or the Bottom of the Maltese cross button to get the screen with the control sticks. Move the sticks. Note: If the stick display shows the sticks moving in the opposite directions then, swap the pot plugs on the main pcb board. Do not worry about accuracy because you will still need to change the 'Mode' and calibrate the sticks.
- Fix as required.
- Remove battery.

Replace the Transmitter back and the 10 screws.

Change 'Mode 1' to 'Mode 2' in the software.
- Install battery and turn on Transmitter.
- Press the Left side of the Maltese cross button (cross) to move to the 'Radio Setup' screen.
- Press the Up side of the cross to move to the 'Mode' change option. This will be at the bottom of the screen.
- Press the Right or Left side of the cross to change 'Modes'. Change your 'Mode' from 'Mode 1' to 'Mode 2'.
- Press the 'Exit' button to highlight the page number in the upper right of the 'Radio Setup' screen - '1/5'.

Calibration of sticks.
- Press the Left side of the cross from the 'Radio Setup' screen page '1/5' to highlight page '5/5'.
- Using the 'Menu' button and following the on screen instructions calibrate your NEW Turnigy 9XR 'Mode 2' Transmitter's sticks.

If you made it this far in less than 20 minutes --- YEAH!

Congratulations you too have A Brand New Turnigy 9XR Transmitter. :mrgreen:
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Re: Hard to go from Mode 1 -> Mode 2?

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