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How to charge to 9XR battery?

Postby mapes12 » 01 Jul 2013, 05:01

I've got the Turnigy 9XR Safety Protected 11.1v (3s) 2200mAh 1.5C Transmitter Pack from HK and fitted it into my 9XR. As far as I can see only the balance plug connects to the TX leaving the other JST dangling. This is no problem as the TX works fine. But my question is: How do I charge this battery? Does the charging socket on the 9XR do the job or do I have to remove it from the Tx and plug it into my Lipo charger? I've looked everywhere and can't find an answer to this :?:

Can anyone tell me how they are charging theirs please.
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Re: How to charge to 9XR battery?

Postby ShowMaster » 01 Jul 2013, 22:29

Safety first, remove the battery!
The charging port on the tx has no smarts and no way to balance charge your pack. It also has a diode in line I believe that can fool chargers to not shut off at the correct voltage. I also believe ther's a fuse in line that off you blow it will disable your tx until you open the case and replace it. A lot of screws to do that.
The batteries are inexpensive snd hold their charge for months. I own 2 batteries and keep one charged as a swap out at the field if my main one goes dead.
Think "fire" in a plastic case when charging and you'll answer your own question. Do you really trust the "safety circuit" in the battery?
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Re: How to charge to 9XR battery?

Postby mapes12 » 01 Jul 2013, 23:05

Hello ShowMaster. Thanks for your reply. Can I ask, do you own a 9XR and the Turnigy 9XR Safety Protected 11.1v (3s) 2200mAh 1.5C Transmitter Pack? If yes, are you unplugging the battery each time to charge it in your regular lipo balance charger? Then what's the point of the charging socket on the TX?

Your comment "Do you really trust the "safety circuit" in the battery?" which is a good question. However, if HK try and sell stuff here in the UK that does not meet the claims they make then beware the Trading Standards Dept and the Health & Safety Executive who will have the product banned from import.

I think the only way I'm going to get some clarity on this is to plug the Tx into my lipo charger and see what happens. If it goes up in a puff of smoke then the bits will be off to the Tranding Standards people for them to have a conversation with HK.
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Re: How to charge to 9XR battery?

Postby ShowMaster » 02 Jul 2013, 04:32

Yes I own a 9xr. The charge jack on the side is ornery much a standard all these years fir first nicads and then Nimh batteries that usually don't burst into flame or need balancing. The lipo in the tx has evolved and the charge circuits haven't. If you look in the 9xr battery compartment you'll see a place for a second uninstalled battery connector. HK may have planned to have a smart charger in the 9xr?
The 9xr and 2.4G tx modules need 6.5v or more to function ok. So that would allow a 6 cell Nimh pack I think.
It is confusing to provide lipo operation but not an internal charger.
You should balance a lipo pack or life pack every so many (5 in told) charges.
This battery has a nice feature in that it will just cut off if the voltage drops below 9v(3v/cell), bad news is it just cuts off! If your flying, it costs off. A standard lipo will keep going until its low and damaged but your tx will keep working down to 6v.
I use the life battery and yes, I've left my tx powered too long on the bench and killed my life battery. Not flying or after flying, just bench testing. I left it on and went to bed so the low battery alarm wasn't heard! So I have a few $7 life 3cell batteries in case I mess up.

So my advice,
If you have the HK 9xr battery charge it with an external balance charger and carry a spare normal or any other lipo that will fit for a quick exchange at the field for recharging while you fly.
Next fully charge your 9xR battery and slowly drain it with a meter across it to test the cutoff voltage and then set your tx alarm maybe 1/2 volt or more above that. Then you'll have time to land before it just cuts off.
Since my TXs now use the same life batteries and I have a spare I'm not bought having to charge to fly, I charge wile flying if needed.
Hope this thinking helps.
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Re: How to charge to 9XR battery?

Postby bennermax » 23 Oct 2013, 09:55

what type charger do you recommend, the accucel 6 does not seem to accommodate this type of battery
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How to charge to 9XR battery?

Postby ShowMaster » 03 Dec 2013, 14:51

bennermax wrote:what type charger do you recommend, the accucel 6 does not seem to accommodate this type of battery

Your charger should charge it. Select the program mode and then set the voltage per cell.
As you change the cell voltage voltage to 3.3v the display should change to life. 3.7 lipo and 3.6v lith ion as I remember. In any case your charger specs say life charging so you just have to read up on setting it. It's circuitry and programming is pretty close to all the smart chargers and they all program the same.
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Re: How to charge to 9XR battery?

Postby fabianoms » 06 Feb 2014, 10:54

Hi,

Suppose I have a Turnigy Accucel 6 and I want to charge my 9XR battery. I have two connectors in the battery: the balance connector, and the other connector (with the red and black wires). Do I need to plug these two connectors or only the balance connector?
If I need to plug the two connectors, how do I plug the red one (with the two wires)? Do I need to buy an adapter for it?
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Re: How to charge to 9XR battery?

Postby ShowMaster » 11 Feb 2014, 17:29

The acucell charger doesn't charge through the balance port. It charges through the main battery wires. The balance port it only used to monitor the individual cell voltages and balance the cells. You would connect the charger to both the balance port and the main lipo wires.
Also unless you actually select the balance mode in the acucell chargers window, you're not actually doing a balance charge. Many make that mistake. Comment the balance connector but never pit the charger in the balance charge mode.
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Re: How to charge to 9XR battery?

Postby solentlife » 19 May 2014, 20:44

There are two ways to charge the 9xr designed LiPo pack ...

Usually I use a RTF charger that only needs balance plug connected to charger..... cheap and cheerful.
Or :
If I want to use my B6 charger ... then I have a JST adaptor that fits the main red plug and the main charge output of my charger ... I also plug in balance lead ... set Charger to LiPo 3S, 2.2A, BALANCE charge.

There is no need to play with settings ... Accucel 6 is same .. just select BALANCE charge, plug in both leads .... set to 3S and 2.2A ... press start and let it do it's thing.

The LiPo pack is charged outside the radio ...

I have two 9xr's and I charge the above ways ....

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Re: How to charge to 9XR battery?

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